Security Management magazine podcasted with Marc Tobias about his new book, Tobias on Locks and Insecurity Engineering, in March 2024. The interview is about 10:50 into the audio clip.
The interview was in reference to an article published in Security Management in December, 2024.
https://www.asisonline.org/security-management-magazine/articles/2024/12/red-team/lock-design-rules/